But I also learn an enormous amount through dyadic conversation, right?

但通过对的对话学到了很多东西，对吧？

A lot of us, I believe, in that conversation, in that dyadic exchange, a lot can be learned.

认为，在那样的对话，在那样的双向交流，们可以学到很多。

And I've talked to researchers and they have very much admitted this, and I think part of it is: it is harder to study when it's not a kind of clear dyadic relationship in the way that you would with a spouse.

和研究人员谈过，他们非常承认这，认为部分原因是：当友谊不像你和配偶那样是种明确的二元关系时，研究起来会更困难。